My aggressive journey to say a few words. (AKA) I'll be saying stuff that won't matter to many of you but it'll ALL mean something to me.
Published on July 30, 2004 By wnx_decoy In Current Events
What is wrong with this world? Am I just stupid or was the U.S. Constituition written while under the influence of a God fearing belief?

If the constition was written under those principles than why do the people who are also God fearing, have to refrain from using his holy name in public? People honestly wanted to change our 200+ year old pledge just because it includes the word God. And what's even worse is that I have to sit back and listen to people curse while using God's name. Maybe I'm just a crazy christian that is too blind to no the difference, but I don't think that's it.

I have the strangest feeling our forefathers didn't mean that you can't practice religion in the U.S. just that you can't FORCE your religion upon someone. Saying the pledge is not forcing christian ethics upon anyone, it's just asking Americans to have some respect for their country.

Gays can get married, legally, now. All I have to say about this one is, keep them out of court rooms and churches when doing this, because the church is (or at least mine is) against homosexual marriages. Then you have the court rooms which have the american flag right in your face.

If you haven't noticed yet, I'm a christian and I can't stand the fact that we are letting people like this get away with what they are doing. You don't see me going around yelling at people for not praying, so why yell at me FOR praying? I'm not even speaking for crying out loud.

Oh, and then there's schools... This sucks big one's! You don't have to pledge anymore and the principal can't ask you to take time to pray and/or meditate. I remember, in 3rd grade, we would always do morning pledge and then the moment of silence for prayer or meditation. It was harmless. If you don't want to pray, you had time to sit and think. If you wanted to pray and not feel weird you could. Suddenly, out of nowhere we weren't aloud to do those things anymore. Now, to pray you look like a freak and everyone thinks your a loser that doesn't deserve to have friends.

So, what am I? Am I an idiot for even thinking that God is good? Maybe that's why we're having so much trouble in this world now. People won't accept that God isn't a word to bind you into one religion, but a word to symbolize the greatness of our country... if you won't accept it as a holy being. Or perhaps I'm a psychotic homophobe who can't even function in the same world as a homosexual or bisexual (no real dif.).

Capt. over and out!


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on Aug 13, 2004
Capt.: Not to get bogged down in the big religious debate, but according to Paul, it is better to remain unmarried and devote yourself to the Lord. If you have sexual desire that you cannot resist (who doesn't?) then it is better that you marry so that you can "get your freak on". 1 Corinthians 7 : 1 - 2 & 8 - 9 talk about this specifically, but the entire chapter up until verse 17 has to do with marriage.

Hope that helps at least a little bit!
on Aug 13, 2004

My parents had a divorce about 4, almost 5, years ago, and I was just wondering if maybe their will power had something to do with it, because divorce is frowned upon in the Baptist churches that I've been to.

I'm not sure what you mean by this.  Can you clarify it a little for me?

on Aug 13, 2004
Yeah I'm going with what Texas Wahine is saying. It makes sense. It kinda adds to what I was trying to say. If you're going to stay single then you are supposed to devote yourself to God.

~carebear~
on Aug 13, 2004
Ok, for one this is not what us Catholics believe. We do not believe that Mary was a sin free person. We believe that she was a virgin even though she had a baby. It was God's gift to her and to the world. So we're saying she had Jesus with out having sex. And Catholics don't get their babies babtized right away. That's a lie big time! I don't know where you got that from, but it's not true. I didn't get baptized until almost a year after I was born. We're not like that at all.


Actually Ashley, Catholics do believe that Mary was free from sin.

Pope John Paul II has confirmed that Mary was conceived without sin.

"Mary, "full of grace", has been recognized by the Church as "all holy and free from every stain of sin", "enriched from the first instant of her conception with the splendour of an entirely unique holiness" (Lumen gentium, n. 56)."

As for the baptism...it's not a lie--from my experience (yes, I'm Catholic too, I might actually know what I am talking about!) most Catholics have their babies baptized within the first couple of months--that is "right away" compared to some Protestant churches where you don't get baptized until you are six or seven. Instead of being so quick to call me a liar, maybe you should have asked me to clarify.
on Aug 13, 2004
Reply #251 By: blondelife - 8/12/2004 9:13:04 PM

According to standard Catholic doctrine (and most Christian ones too, I believe) you are born in a state of sin. This is why baptism is such a big deal for Catholics, if you don't get baptized you aren't cleansed of that original condition.


I am with carebear. I have never heard this one. You are born yourself and you make a choice in what direction you want to go and what path you want to follow.


I'm honestly suprised that as practicing Catholics you wouldn't know this. You should read the catechism--the story of Adam and Eve had consequences for all of us...

Here's a slice of the catechism for you--

402 All men are implicated in Adam's sin, as St. Paul affirms: "By one man's disobedience many (that is, all men) were made sinners": "sin came into the world through one man and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all men sinned."[289] The Apostle contrasts the universality of sin and death with the universality of salvation in Christ. "Then as one man's trespass led to condemnation for all men, so one man's act of righteousness leads to acquittal and life for all men."[290]

403 Following St. Paul, the Church has always taught that the overwhelming misery which oppresses men and their inclination towards evil and death cannot be understood apart from their connection with Adam's sin and the fact that he has transmitted to us a sin with which we are all born afflicted, a sin which is the "death of the soul".[291] Because of this certainty of faith, the Church baptizes for the remission of sins even tiny infants who have not committed personal sin.[292]

on Aug 13, 2004
Oh, I have a joke kinda thing....If you're Catholic and easily offended....please do not read....



The basic belief of Catholicism is if it feels good, stop. (That's from Adam Ferrara I believe)

Sorry, but all this Catholic talk kinda made me remember it....

~Zoo
on Aug 13, 2004
According to Dante's Inferno, Limbo is where the unbaptized but otherwise virtuous souls go.... Now admittedly Dante is not canon, but I understood that his overall beliefs were representative of the Church.


citahellion, Dante's view is certainly inspired by Catholicism, but it's not really representative of the Church. Due to his respect for the Ancient Masters (by which I mean Greek writers and Philosophers), he goes easy on "virtuous pagan," meaning those that died never hearing the "word of God." The reason why he created Limbo and put the ancient Greeks and Romans there was mostly because he would have felt bad condemning these Great people to eternal suffering. That's also why Virgil ended up as his guide.

His views were not really indicative of official Church dogma, however. Though I think the Comedy was earnestly his view of what the afterlife would be like.

Actually Ashley, Catholics do believe that Mary was free from sin.

Pope John Paul II has confirmed that Mary was conceived without sin.

"Mary, "full of grace", has been recognized by the Church as "all holy and free from every stain of sin", "enriched from the first instant of her conception with the splendour of an entirely unique holiness" (Lumen gentium, n. 56)."

As for the baptism...it's not a lie--from my experience (yes, I'm Catholic too, I might actually know what I am talking about!) most Catholics have their babies baptized within the first couple of months--that is "right away" compared to some Protestant churches where you don't get baptized until you are six or seven. Instead of being so quick to call me a liar, maybe you should have asked me to clarify.


Yes, these are all basic tenets of Catholic belief. It surprises me that Catholics here would first hear of it.
on Aug 14, 2004
The basic belief of Catholicism is if it feels good, stop.


Sorry to say shaun i don't like that at all. No i'm not upset or anything but this statement isn't that true.

~blondelife~
on Aug 14, 2004
Actually Ashley, Catholics do believe that Mary was free from sin.


As for the baptism...it's not a lie--from my experience (yes, I'm Catholic too, I might actually know what I am talking about!) most Catholics have their babies baptized within the first couple of months--that is "right away" compared to some Protestant churches where you don't get baptized until you are six or seven. Instead of being so quick to call me a liar, maybe you should have asked me to clarify


Ok, so maybe I was wrong about it. But I've never heard of that in my church. They have never taught it to us. And the babies at my church aren't baptized right away. So my bad Shades!

The basic belief of Catholicism is if it feels good, stop.


I don't get it! lol. Seriously, i don't get it.

Yes, these are all basic tenets of Catholic belief. It surprises me that Catholics here would first hear of it.


Well now I know this.

~carebear~
on Aug 15, 2004
Ok, I don't think it's too fair to leave the baptists out the ridicule (sp?), so let's give a nice bit of Baptist insight here.

Have you ever noticed that baptists never move their hips? Ashley, Jessica, or whoever else wants to know, that might explain some of the guys at school...

Or howabout our applauds? We don't have one. You have the golf clap and then the next step in silent clapping is Baptist clapping... *silence*... that's about it for us.

Of course these aren't really jokes but this kind of thing has shown up on comedy central a time or two that I've seen.

NOW... Poetmom, I'm sorry I wasn't clear at all in what I said, but basically I was wandering if maybe, the reason why my parents got a divorce was because they didn't...umm, know how to control themselves in the first place, so they got married due to that. Then in effect to their hasty marriage they get a divorce.

Do you think that might be the gist of what went on between them?

Capt. over and out!

on Aug 15, 2004
I am totally lost on that one brandon.lol. you need to help me out. i don't get the whole hip thing and the clapping.

~blondelife~
on Aug 15, 2004
Yeah, neither do I jess. lol. But watch, he'll explain it and make us look so stupid. lol.

~carebear~
on Aug 15, 2004
Actually he won't. But if you've ever been over to a Baptist church you'll notice that there is absolutely no "wiggling" around from the "old people". They don't believe in it... even thought Baptists believe that oral sex isn't really sex... that's one of those times in which I leave the beliefs of my church.

Also, after someone sings or whatever, they don't clap, usually. That's because clapping means that you're congratulating the person where an "A-men" is congratulatory towards God.

Capt. over and out!
on Aug 15, 2004
Also, after someone sings or whatever, they don't clap, usually. That's because clapping means that you're congratulating the person where an "A-men" is congratulatory towards God.


Ok I totally get what you mean now. Yeah us Catholics don't clap for the singer person or musician either. We just simply us an Amen.

~carebear~

P.S.~ and you didn't make us look all that stupid! lol

on Aug 16, 2004
We just simply us an Amen.


Yeah we do. that is what we do amen. Also ashley it is suppose to be use not us.lol.

~blondelife~
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